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Officially, I'm in the market for a new bicycle.

I took Blaise in to be looked at over at Broadway Bikes. The dude was nice, and frowned and confessed that the amount of work needed would probably cost more than she had. I pressed for details, and ayep, the overhaul she'd need on brakes and gears would be somewhere around $160 (and that's not even getting into all the other ways she is honestly not a great bike.).

New bikes start around 300, 350. I'd be able to install my rack, get panniers, actually hold some cargo in a manner other than "on my back". This is...not a terrible idea? But it is an awful lot of money.

(And I say that, but I ride Blaise every day, eight miles or more. She is the second most necessary thing I own (after Vera), and easily the second most used. Having a bike is important to me, and having a bike that sucks less would be valuable. Five hundred dollars, or less, for the ability to go anywhere I want1, whenever I want2, safely3? That's really hard to pass up.)

1: Well, anywhere within about ten miles of Dinosaur Sashay.
2: Faster than the busses, and seriously, I can leave when I want. I am a slave to no transit system. Yes. Please!
3: Because, to be honest in the sort of way I've been avoiding mentioning because it's an embarrassing situation, Blaise isn't exactly what you could call safe right now. I'm a safe rider, sure, but she is not a safe bike to ride.


So there we have it. I want a new bike, and if I'm very careful with my money for a month or two (plane tickets to Atlanta, what plane tickets to Atlanta...), and take all the odd jobs I possibly can, I think I can afford one without getting too tightly uncomfortable about my finances.

So I'm going to be doing research, and saving money, and collecting a good idea of what my needs/wants/desires are (multiple speeds/fat bouncy tires/orange!). And then I'm going to find the right place to buy such a beast, and well, then I'm going to give someone a lot of money.

Advice on any of the above is welcome.

~Sor
MOOP!

PostScript: Dear Dreamwidth. Fuck you.

on 2012-03-06 05:45 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] chickenhat.livejournal.com
One: Please post a pic of the current bike. I won't laugh or throw a pity party, I promise.

Two: Are you an upright rider who prefers cruisers, or are you looking for something in a drop handlebars position?

Three: Where will you be storing it and do you have to carry it up and/or down stairs?

on 2012-03-06 05:51 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kdsorceress.livejournal.com
1) Give me a couple days. Crappy mountain bike, possibly from Wal*Mart, bought from a friend who wasn't using it.

2) I have no idea what those words mean.

I would prefer to ride with my back straight up and down, and handlebars that I can comfortably reach from that position. As things currently stand, I have to lean slightly forward, and that's no good. I often ride with a backpack, which can be as much as thirty pounds or so of stuff, so *having* to be bent over is a bad situation for me. Obviously, I should be getting a proper cargo set-up, but even once that's happened, I doubt I'll drop the pack entirely.

3) I will be storing it mostly in the basement of the house. Down about six steps, yes. Light is not the hugest issue --Blaise is a heavy piece of machinery-- but having places to put my hands and carry it is important. Also places to let me lock the bike to things, since I spend a lot of time out and about in the city, and need a secure attachment. Bonus points for a front wheel with no quick release, so I don't have to procure a second lock to attach it.

~Sor

on 2012-03-06 06:43 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] tirerim.livejournal.com
What it sounds like you almost certainly want is a "hybrid" bike -- those tend to allow a more upright posture than either mountain bikes like yours or road bikes like mine (and drop handlebars are the curvy kind that I have -- I love them, because I like to minimize air resistance, go fast, and keep my center of gravity closer to the ground, but that's definitely a personal preference). That will incidentally be lighter, too, which I predict you will enjoy even if it's not strictly necessary. They tend to come with moderate-width tires with some tread but not big knobs; I think those are pretty good (less work to pedal than mountain bike tires), but it should be possible to change them out for fatter, treadier ones if you want.

Quick release skewers can actually be replaced with non-quick release ones pretty cheaply and easily. You can even get locking ones if you're worried about people with wrenches, but those are kind of pricey, and probably not worth it -- I've never had a wheel stolen even with quick-release wheels, though I don't tend to leave my bike outside for long periods.

I have heard good things about Bike Boom (http://www.bikeboom.net/) in Davis Square -- they sell good quality used bikes. I'd be happy to accompany you on a bike-shopping expedition if you want, to have an extra pair of eyes.

on 2012-03-06 09:22 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] herbertinc.livejournal.com
Interesting - I've heard that Bike Boom is terribly expensive and they refurb bikes to be "theft proof" (as in: ugly). I'd love to hear how they actually size up if you visit them in person.

on 2012-03-06 10:15 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] tirerim.livejournal.com
The stuff in their gallery (http://www.bikeboom.net/#!gallery) doesn't look particularly ugly to me, just old, and they don't seem to have gone to much effort to fix the paint jobs. I haven't actually been there, yet, though, so I can't speak to prices, but bikes in general are pretty expensive around here. Craigslist or such is probably a better source of good deals, but that also makes it harder to find something that fits and is what you want.

on 2012-03-06 07:12 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] whimmydiddle.livejournal.com
I recommend you look for a bike with gears in the rear hub. I won't try to explain it here--get you friend [livejournal.com profile] tirerim there to show you what it is.

It will make the bike a little heavier, but if you are already doing cargo & commuting rather than racing, that small weight difference will not be one you care about. Gears in the hub are a LOT easier to maintain & less prone to breakdown than derailleurs, and from what I can gather of your lifestyle, that's a big plus for you. Also hub gears are almost universally found on commuters that are designed for a more upright riding position--if it's got gears in the hub, it's got a high chance of being designed for the riding position you favor.

Remember, derailleur is French for "My chain's dragging on the ground." :-)

on 2012-03-06 10:33 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] tirerim.livejournal.com
The bigger disadvantage of hub gears, I think, is that they have fewer gear ratios (so acceleration is harder) in a smaller range (which makes things harder in a place with lots of hills). So I'd suggest taking a test drive up and down a good-sized hill, with a few stops along the way, to try one out. But yes, definitely easier to maintain if the limitations aren't a problem for you.

on 2012-03-06 07:15 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] mindways
Getting a new bike sounds like a really smart (and fun!) investment. I used to ride an old beater of a thing - had had it since high school - then upgraded to a refurb from Bikes Not Bombs and wow, what a difference. And I don't ride half as much as you do... though I'll sometimes use my skates as faster-than-walking transit.

If you find a bike you want which has a quick-release front wheel, getting a cable is a reasonable alternative to getting a second lock. (Professional thieves can get through a cable pretty easily, IIRC, but professional thieves aren't generally going for just a front wheel.)

on 2012-03-06 09:03 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] randysmith
One bit of advice which is hopefully not needed: Figure out the accessories you're going to need and their cost before you actually hit the Big Red Button; when I got my last bike, the initial quote ended up being a ways lower than the final price (not the salescritter's fault--I kept faulting in "Oh, I need this, and this, and this" during the process). I considered carefully writing down everything I added to the bike before I was done (mirror, kickstand, frame for paniers, pedal clips, and there were several other things) so that I didn't have the same experience the next time I bought, but didn't since I don't expect to buy another bike for a good decade or so :-}.

on 2012-03-06 09:16 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] jere7my.livejournal.com
As I said on DW, I am solidly behind you wanting big tires — riding on Boston roads and bike trails is practically off-roading half the time, and I've found it's worth the slight extra road friction to not have to wonder, "Oo, will I survive that bump?" I have a Gary Fisher Advance, and there is nothing I do not love about it for Boston riding, though other people sometimes tell me it is too heavy or too mountain-bikey.

I find linear-pull brakes, or V-brakes, to be a thousand times easier to maintain than the old cantilever brakes. I don't know if they still make cantilever brakes, but if you're looking at used bikes I would avoid them — they are a real pain to get the balance right on when replacing the pads. With cantilevers, the cable pulls upward on a sort of inverted Y, with each branch going to a brake pad, and you have to balance both branches of the Y at the same time when fiddling with them. (They are what Blaise has, and what my previous bike had.) Linear pull brakes pull from the side, so there's only one direction of force, and you can unclip the cable easily to open the pads when you need to get the wheel off. (There are also disc brakes, which operate on the center of the wheel, but they are very pricey.)

I really like trigger shifters (mine are, I guess, Shimano) over twist-shifters (which operate like revving a motorcycle) — a flick of the finger, and I am in a new gear.

I also really like having front suspension (see again re: Boston roads), and since you're coming from front-and-rear suspension it might be an easier transition to go to front-only. That will not interfere with racks and panniers.

As other people have said, it's easy to replace quick-release front wheels with not, but I have a quick-release front wheel and so far I've never had trouble with it. Might be different if you're leaving your bike outside at night.

That there was pretty much my thought process when I bought Ol' '55, and it worked well for me. If I were recommending a specific bike for you, and you like bikes that are like my bike, I would say take a look at a Gary Fisher Neko (http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/collections/gary_fisher/mountain/dual_sport/neko/neko/#) ($530 new), which is a solid road-mountain hybrid. (It does not come in orange, alas.) But there are many good options. Ride at least several models and sizes, around the block a couple of times, and up and down hills. (It was going downhill that made me realize I wanted one gear set over another.)

I know you've encountered some sexism at Ace, but they are very good at taking care of customers who bought their bike there. They went out of their way to suggest replacing a tire under warranty about 11 months after I bought my bike, for instance, and many times have fixed something minor for me for free.

Bikes Not Bombs is a good place to take Blaise, if you want her to have a useful life after you. (I need to take Hoss there still.) They ask for a $10 donation along with the bike.

If you would like, we can sit down in the backyard with our bikes, once you get one, and I can show you some maintenance tips, like changing pads and fixing a flat and lubing the chain and so on.

I am sad about Blaise, but I think you are making the right call.

on 2012-03-07 05:38 am (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] jere7my.livejournal.com
Note: Looks like the Neko (as well as other Trek models) is about $50 less than that at Ace, which probably means they're cheaper than list price everywhere.

...aaaaand apparently I can edit my comments now. That's new.
Edited on 2012-03-07 05:43 am (UTC)

on 2012-03-06 09:57 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] whimmydiddle.livejournal.com
Also, I cannot say enough good about Kevlar tires. [personal profile] chickenhat and I swear by them. As close to puncture-proof as you can get, which is very important on crap-littered city streets. Sure, you carry a spare tube & know how to fix a flat, but do you want to be a pretty young thing stuck fixing a flat alone in the big city? Yes, they are expensive, but worth every penny. I consider them a safety feature. Start saving for them, even if you can't get them immediately when you get the bike.

on 2012-03-06 10:19 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] jere7my.livejournal.com
do you want to be a pretty young thing stuck fixing a flat alone in the big city?

I don't want to speak for Kat, but I am almost certain she does. She's pretty badass.

on 2012-03-06 11:10 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] whimmydiddle.livejournal.com
Well, whatever, I sure don't want to be an ugly old thing stuck in those circumstances!

on 2012-03-07 04:37 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] whimmydiddle.livejournal.com
Hey, how many gears has your current bike got, front & back?

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