sorcyress: A character from a comic about the maintenance workers of the universe, holding a thumbs up and saying "MOOP!" (Zonker-MOOP!)
[personal profile] sorcyress
Let's start this essay with a disclaimer: I am not fat. I am nothing resembling fat. As a matter of fact, I am hella attractive, and about eighty percent of the time I remember this fact.

So, this brings me back to my original point: I am damn sexy. But I still need to lose some weight.

I'm a big fan of being comfortable in your own skin, and accepting that most people are really quite lovely, especially when they smile1. I like superskinny women, and I like women with heaps of big squishy lovely curves, and I like women who fall somewhere in between. That's because they're pretty much all quite lovely to look at, and yes, the same basic filters apply to men. Most importantly, I like people who can realize2 they're attractive.

I really don't like that people (largely women, but I've met men who fall into this category too) feel they *need* to mad diet in order to be attractive. I've met folks who seriously stress out about gaining weight --they might break 110! I don't like it when folks can't be comfortable with themselves unless they make their body meet someone else's standards first.

But while I hold these views, and appreciate when other people share these views, I don't much enjoy it when people get rabid at all mentions of diet or exercise, regardless of why the person is doing such things in the first place. Because there are more reasons to get yourself into better shape than to fit society's views of beauty.

Most recently, this has been happening to me with Alys. See disclaimer, but I've gained weight since coming to Maryland for the summer --about seven pounds. Nothin'4 in the grand scheme of things, but the weight has translated largely to squooshyness about my middle.

((My middle already tends to be squooshy, as, while I'm reasonably active what with the walking everywhere and the dancing a lot, nothing I do really works my abs. I'm coming to peace with this.))

So I make the (what I find just) comment of "I should make myself less squooshy". This causes Alys to get all upset at me and emphatically tell me I'm beautiful and not fat and all that jazz. Which, on the one hand is nice and true and stuff. But honestly?

In Maryland, I have more access to food, and less access to both walking and dancing. Consequently, I eat more, and exercise less, and oh shock, that makes me squooshy! I prefer to have a slightly better sculpted body than that, so I want to fix it.

I don't want to diet until my tummy is flat, that's a lost cause and probably really not fun. Honestly, I could probably ignore this whole thing and just wait until I've got places worth walking to and dancing every single week and it'll solve itself. But I believe that I've got the right to say I want to return to how I was four months ago, without igniting a lecture about how I'm perfectly beautiful already.

Because, well, I'm damn sexy. But I'd still like to lose some weight, or at least gain some muscle.

~Sor
MOOP!

1: I am a *complete* sucker for smiles, or at least real ones. They are just so utterly perfect and beautiful and lovely and *right*. It's part of why I try to smile at strangers a lot, because then they smile back.

2: Because, let's be honest here, people3 who are constantly whining about how they are not pretty when they very clearly are are lamesauce. Also, *annoying*. And make me want to answer "yes" to "does this make me look fat" just out of spite.

3: I mean people who aren't me. I am always awesome. By which I mean, please feel free to slap me around if I start whining about not being pretty.

4: Being a dork, I went and figured out how much it really *is* in the grand scheme of things. Seven pounds is 5.6% of my body weight.

on 2009-08-27 05:49 pm (UTC)
marcmagus: Me playing cribbage in regency attire (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] marcmagus
1. 5.6% strikes me as a non-trivial change, actually.

2. Might you be able to short-circuit the rants by making the comment of "I should get into better shape" rather than "I should make myself less squooshy"? Do people respond reasonably if you respond with "I didn't say I'm not beautiful, and I didn't say I'm fat, but increased squooshiness is a sign that I'm becoming less healthy than I was a few months ago, and I'd like to correct that."?

on 2009-08-27 06:04 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] blaisepascal
People get fucked-up about thin/healthy as well. F'rinstance, compared to most people kdsorceress is in very good shape, even with the extra 5.7%. Saying she wants to shed that half-stone to get into better shape could lead to the same sort of complaints, except this time of "But you're already in good shape", as opposed to "but you're already teh sexy".

on 2009-08-27 06:31 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com
I usually just say I want the body I had back, and that I find having something for underwear elastic to indent very annoying.

on 2009-08-27 09:47 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] harena.livejournal.com
i quite agree with this, but not quite to the extreme i was at pre-pre-children which was a bit sickly 110 pounds (i'm about 5'7" for comparison)... but i would like to get back down to around 135 and lose the Four-Baby-Belly AND be in better shape because it depresses me when i can't navigate around furniture (and doorframes :P) like i used to did 30 pounds ago...

Also, Sor: i actually have gotten better about considering myself prettycute but then i get depressed when i think nobody else thinks so... ;p

on 2009-08-27 09:50 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com
5'7" and 110? yipe. 112 on my 5'4" (almost) frame was too skinny for me.

on 2009-08-27 10:07 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] harena.livejournal.com
Yeah, i was ridiculously skinny for a long time 'cause i had a high speed metabolism which then later was aggravated by anxiety but fortunately i was never anorexic... i couldn't, i love food too much, heh.

And i've been told that i don't look fat but heh, when one is used to being that skinny the feeling is a bit relative ;)

on 2009-08-27 05:49 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] miriampenguin.livejournal.com
Sounds reasonable to me.

on 2009-08-27 07:38 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] drama-angel3189.livejournal.com
I know the feeling and I know that I talked to my doctor about losing about 15 pounds and I think that if you want to change the way you look you need to have the will power to make that happen. ie going to the gym more often or just being more active.

on 2009-08-27 08:02 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] macaroniandtuna.livejournal.com
I agree with Magus. 5.6% of a person is not trivial. It's not huge, but neither is it nothing.

less access to walking
I don't see the logic here. You've got two working legs just the same as you do in Boston, and nothing stopping you from using them. Columbia has many miles of pathways, and failing that walk alongside roads just like in Boston (minus the sidewalks, in some cases, and there's more greenery than concrete and brick). Yes, things in suburbia are more spread out than in a city, but if the point is the walking, I don't see how that's a problem; in fact I'd see it as a good thing. (This is me slapping you around for whining about a nonexistent problem, as requested.)

on 2009-08-30 01:49 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] tirerim.livejournal.com
Perhaps the problem is not so much less access to walking, but less reason to walk? It's easy to do a lot of walking when there are a lot of places to go and things to do, and the obvious way to get there is on foot; it's harder when you have to invent an excuse to go out, or just go for a walk for its own sake.

on 2009-09-21 02:13 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kdsorceress.livejournal.com
Bingo as to what BDan said --in Columbia, I have legs, I can walk, but I have completely no incentive to do so. I could go walk, but without a place to walk *too* I'd rather stay indoors with friends.

~Sor

Stretch & Twist

on 2009-08-27 10:01 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dhs.livejournal.com
As frequently as I can talk myself into it (say, three times a week on average) I do a bunch of stretches and crunches and bicycles and pushups.
I'm not doing huge amounts of them, but I think my middle is not gaining ground.

on 2009-08-27 10:18 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] jere7my.livejournal.com
I agree with Mark — fat people can be gorgeous, thin people can be gorgeous, but we all have to decide for ourselves how in shape we want to be. If I sweat unpleasantly when dancing, or get really out of breath when hiking a trail I'm excited about, it's time to start thinking about what I'm eating and whether I'm exercising enough. Extra weight can prevent you from doing what you want to do, and if that's the case it's worth getting rid of.

That said, I know some people who are both more in shape than me and rounder than me, so being in shape doesn't always translate to slim.

on 2009-08-27 10:45 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] thorog.livejournal.com
I believe the standard way to get yourself hit is:

"Do these pants make me look fat?"

"No, your ass makes you look fat."

on 2009-08-28 04:20 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ms-hecubus.livejournal.com
Rather than worrying about the sqooshiness try spending 10 minutes a day toning that middle section. The increased muscle mass will help your metabolism and better muscle tone in your belly leads to less back problems down the road.

on 2009-08-28 04:52 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] sparr0.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure that the very few style guides that allow nested footnotes say that your [3] and [4] are backwards. Oh, and you're not fat.

on 2009-08-28 07:09 pm (UTC)
crystalpyramid: (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] crystalpyramid
I pretty much wholeheartedly agree with your first five paragraphs, and would probably continue to agree with subsequent paragraphs if I had a close friend named Alys in my life as well. Body=good, weight loss culture=stupid, etc.

That being said, I'm really a fan of core strength. It gives you better posture, better balance, lets you do various physical activities without getting worn out quickly (this is why running websites say you should do core exercises; it also helps compensate for wimpy female upper body strength at activities that might otherwise require it), and oh yeah, generally does make you look better in clothes.

I took a belly dance class last spring that I really enjoyed. It targeted all those muscle groups that seem to be utterly neglected by Scottish dancing (not just stomach, but different parts of stomach), and was also a lot of fun. Good for getting to practice moving in sexy ways without feeling too foolish about it, toning squooshiness, and becoming a little bit comfortable with whatever squooshiness is left after you've toned the hell out of it. Yoga might also be good for this kind of thing, although probably somewhat less sexy-feeling.

My one issue with this post is that I hate the phrase "lose weight". Especially because it's quite possible that if you did some kind of core strength thing, you'd actually gain weight. Muscle weighing more than fat and all that. People have been telling me all summer that I've lost weight and they are wrong. (I gained a pound.)

on 2009-08-30 01:50 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] tirerim.livejournal.com
"Lose circumference", perhaps?

on 2009-08-31 02:38 am (UTC)
crystalpyramid: (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] crystalpyramid
How about "increase density"?

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